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Craps Basic dice setting

dicesetter

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Theres so much incorrect information about dice setting. Like I said before I spent lots on dice setting courses and it came down to something I needed to try for myself. I sepent some time on the wov site and members there had no experience but think its not possible.

The first real progress I made was after reading about a study where researchers run millions of trial shoots. But not with real dice because that would take years. It was done with computer simulations and simulated physics. Some of what they tested was the amount of spin of the die and where on the table they were thrown. They found at certain angles and spin, the shoots gave more controllable results.

Thought they were supposed to be totally random? Nope. To check if the results were correct on the simulator, they tried al life shoots with groups of parameters to check for consistent results, and the results matched. The physics simulator computer was right.

As far as I know this was the only proper simulation done with computers. Its the only way to do millions of tests without taking years, and it found the best and most effective way to throw. Because there ae infinite combinations of throwing die. Dropping them straight down like Steve Forte did was a very limited and somewhat shortsighted test.

For the researchers I found, They didnt publish all details but I found enough to enhance my own results. Think about angle, how it will affect results. And very importantly about forwad roll momentum, and angle thrown to the diamond bumpers. I wont give full details because I worked very hard to find the information. Im not selling my findings either but I do want to at least help people.

My point of all this is if you are also a dicesetter, dont give up with all the negativity from people that probably dont even own any dice. Wov is the worst for that and lots of people pretending to be experts.
 

drop90

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Physics and the force apply to the dice, it's natural to have a pattern. There are too many factors affecting it, though. Even a small difference in angle may give different results. It's too much to process for simple players like me, so I mostly play by instinct.
 

Raptor

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In the right conditions, anything is possible. The question is more do you have suitable conditions? Include the rubber diamond bumpers.

If you lobbed dice to minimize random, the table staff would be onto you right away.
 

steve

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Dicesetter what edge do you get and how are you calculating edge?

My experience is edge is easily possible in optimal conditions and with the right technique, but even then the edge is very small.

I know most people think its nonsense. And most people never tried it. The internet is full of self professed experts armed only with opinion.
 

sparc yhw

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Dicesetter what edge do you get and how are you calculating edge?

My experience is edge is easily possible in optimal conditions and with the right technique, but even then the edge is very small.

I know most people think its nonsense. And most people never tried it. The internet is full of self professed experts armed only with opinion.
Steve you are correct on a couple of points , the edge is very small but it is reasonably easy to achieve , you merely have to throw one additional 6 every 36 rolls coupled with a good betting strategy tailored to your particular outcome spread to be able to win.
The people who have never tried it have the strongest opinions as to it's being impossible
 
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